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Aug 16, 2021

Doug Parsons talks with Dr. V. Kelly Turner, an Assistant Professor of Urban Planning and Geography at the UCLA Luskin School of Public Affairs. Doug and Kelly discuss: the need to create governance and regulation around extreme heat; decoupling disaster heatwave response to long term planning for it; how can social media amplify disaster messaging; the pros and cons of cool pavements and should we name heat waves. And we also hear about some innovative street art using reflecting paint!

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Topics discussed in this episode:

  • Unintended consequences on using cool pavements in LA.
  • How to we address climate and thermal equity in urban planning?
  • Making heat “visible” to people so they prioritize addressing it.
  • Cool surfaces and art in Los Angeles
  • We need to form a governance structure around dealing with extreme heat (like we do with air and water).
  • Should we regulate heat like a pollutant.
  • We are not framing the threat of heat properly.
  • Chronic heat exposure versus heat event exposure.
  • How does social media amplify the socializing risk theory?

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Reports Kelly mentioned in the podcast:
1. Heat Resilient LA - using cell phone mobility data to move beyond static vulnerability maps to acknowledge that people are exposed to heat in lots of places as they move about the city (link)
2. Micro-climate Zones: Designing Effective Outdoor Cooling Interventions (link)
3. 'Cool' Art (link)
4. AB 585 - CA Legislation - Extreme Heat and Community Resilience Program (link)
5. Draft Report on municipal heat planning analysis (attached)
6. Cool pavement field evaluation paper (attached) and the controversial City Lab report (link)
7. Page 26-29, what Kelly said to the National Academy of Sciences about heat (attached, NAS Workshop Proceedings)

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